Second, there was a sense of "liberation and freedom" among others who said that they felt a little discomfort, too, in letting go of such an historic resting place. They grasped that the time had probably come to speak more creatively about the human condition but they also wanted to make sure that I wasn't claiming the whole idea of sin and salvation were over. And, of course, that was not my point. What I was trying to say was that the time has come to let go of our historic obsession with sin precisely because this

And then there were the folks who didn't seem to hear the nuance of my suggestion - perhaps for them reality is always black/white or all/nothing - for they wondered what would happen if we didn't include the reality of sin in our spiritual anthropology? That would be a self-centered mistake - idolatry even - but that was not my point. (NOTE: one of my blind spots as a person and pastor is trying to hear/understand those who do not think paradoxically. I can usually grasp their insight, but it takes a LOT of listening and critical reflecting on my part because I most always see things as both/and rather than either/or.)
And when our worship conversation came to a close, a few folks even spoke to me about the new/old writings re: "what ever happened to sin?" I even got an email from a friend citing a survey that 61% of Americans believe in sin - and almost 85% are certain that some behaviors are totally sinful. Nevertheless, Marcus Borg seems to grasp what lies deeper when he writes:
All of our traditional formulations about sin are right and wise... Each "catches" a comprehensive dynamic at work in who we are. The problem is disobedience. The proble

But... is "sin" the best comprehensive term for naming our problem (or the human condition)? Would we understand our problem - and its solution - better if we used multiple images to speak about it... for when we say that "we are all sinners," (aren't) we really saying, "something is not right, something is radically wrong, we are lost?" (Borg, The Heart of Christianity, p. 167)
And THAT is what this opening conversation was about: what is th

As this day comes to a close, I am grateful to God for all those who engaged in this conversation with me - those who share my questions, those who challenge me and those who don't seem to get it, too - for we are really all in this together. I like the way the Iona Community puts it:
O God of life - of all life and each life - we lay our lives before you;
We give our lives to you from whom nothing in us is hidden.
You are before us, Lord, and you are behind.
You are around us, Lord, and you are within.
O God of life, O generous Spirit,
Renew us all with your life: tonight, tomorrow and always.
3 comments:
I think different people did hear your message from different perspectives. My comment sprang more from your on line sermon than from what I heard in church and my perspective was the cycle of coming to church being reminded of salvation and redemption of sin and them promising God not to do it again...failing and coming back imperfect again and again. That becomes self-centered! Paying attention to just the behavior and not the depths(soul). Again Thomas Moore talks about honoring symptoms (sin?) as a voice of the soul. "Care of the soul is not so much concerned with fixing as with attending to the small details of everyday life." I think it all goes back to that word paradox....on the one hand sin is bad and we want it gone....but on the other hand it gives us a glimpse into the depths of the soul! We have to go deeper and see the real message of Jesus ministry here and I like what Moore says on page 27 of Writing in the Sand...He says,"These are the fundamentals of Jesus philosophy..YOU CHANGE PROFOUNDLY: You don't just repent and feel sorry for your mistakes.<<<---(Your point in the sermon?) You adopt an utterly unconventional point of view. You live in a different reality, even though you are still working out your worldly life.
Two streams now define your life: earthly concerns and spiritual vision. THIS CHANGE leads to a life based on love, a love rooted in profound and radical respect for the other. Eventually you realize that your chief role in life is to heal. That is how Jesus lived and what the Gospels teach."
Exactly...
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